When You Say Yes, I Say No is a reaction to Roukens previous series Say Yes When You Want To Say No from 2016. In this, he follows the existing pattern, but searches for more contradictions to counteract himself. By adding circles to the squares and reuniting overlapping pieces. Also the loose brushstrokes have taken on a prominent role in losing control against the fixed tape strokes. In order to take the viewer into the in-between experience, Roukens made the painting process insightful. In When You Say Yes, I Say No #1 the rules and freedoms are part of the artwork.
Both paintings mark the beginning of a new type of work, titled ‘in-between artworks’. Contrary to series, these are a result from developing a smaller idea or experimentation. The word in-between is therefore literally a translation, but also fits in the context of that moment he is searching for.